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Not Funny: Sexual Harassment Allegations and Herman Cain

by Erin Matson, NOW Action Vice President

Revelations that presidential candidate Herman Cain was accused of sexual harassment while heading the National Restaurant Association, as well as suggestions that financial settlements bought silence, are deeply troubling.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits sexual harassment in the workplace. Unfortunately that has not stopped the widespread practice of unwelcome sexual advances, innuendos and jokes in the workplace being leveraged by men against women.

Last night, Mr. Cain's campaign responded to news reports of the allegations with a statement that the press were "Spreading rumors that never stood up to the facts." And yet this morning, Mr. Cain acknowledged that he was accused of sexual harassment while he was at the National Restaurant Association.

Setting the Cain campaign's utter disregard for the facts aside, it's outrageous for anyone to suggest that sexual harassment allegations represent political smears to be dismissed rather than the bravery and dignity of women simply trying to go to work.

This morning, Mr. Cain made a statement saying: "Yes, I do have a sense of humor. Some people have a problem with that. Herman is going to stay Herman. Thank you very much." Feminists will continue to closely follow this story with the seriousness it deserves.

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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
How does allegations of sexual harassment represent the "bravery & dignity of women simply trying 2 go 2 work"--He might be guilty,He might be innocent,the woman might be a brave victim or a pathetic little liar(not brave)-The case doesn't represent anything yet since it hasn't been proven true,End of Story!
10/31/11 @ 19:03
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
Its been reported Herman Cain made physical gestures that were not overtly sexual, but made the women feel 'uncomfortable'.

This is the most ambiguous thing I've ever heard. It seems the definition of sexual harassment has expended to what ever makes a woman feel uncomfortable. What makes one woman uncomfortable doesn't necessarily mean another woman will feel the same way. Its based on individual interpretation. For some reason our society has to assimilate to people who are hypersensitive.

Just because there was a payout doesn't mean he's guilty. Many organizations will offer payouts to women to avoid the expense of litigation and negative publicity.

Yes, it does seem Herman Cain has a sense of humor and unlike most politicians, he doesn't appear to be shackled by political correctness.

10/31/11 @ 19:38
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
Why am I not offended when my female co-workers giggle about the size of their boyfriends genitals? I think its funny.

There are some work place situations where it might be advantageous for women develop thicker skin. It might help close the wage gap and get them promoted to more executive positions. Corporate CEOs don't act like victims.

10/31/11 @ 19:50
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
I agree with cabaret,Who cares!-I laugh at sexual jokes!-I wouldn't feel uncomfortable if people were talking about penis sizes & i sure as hell wouldn't care if someone told me i was sexy--It's a compliment!-I don't approve of physical touching--That's wrong but having sexual remarks made at me,I wouldn't care!-It seems that sexual harassment is defined by the woman & whatever makes her FEEL uncomfortable--Eventually,We're not going 2 be able 2 look at a woman without her permission--Oh feminists,AYEYE.
10/31/11 @ 23:47
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Comment from: geiga [Member] Email
When Bill Clinton raped women and these women came out with solid evidence what did NOW do? NOW trashed these poor women, called them trailer-trash. There was no "giving them the benefit of the doubt" as Erin Matson, vice-president of NOW wants us to do with this Cain non-issue. No wonder men think we are stupid when we support Democrats like Clinton raping women but become all pious & preachy when baseless rumours are attributed to a Republican. Make up your mind NOW gals.
11/01/11 @ 11:04
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
@geiga Why do you think he raped a woman?--Because she says so,-HA!-Women lie about rape all the time,Just look at Duke,Hofstra,Tawana Brawley--All false accusations!-I don't think you can be saying he raped her when there isn't any evidence pointing 2 that.
11/01/11 @ 11:31
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Comment from: Lisa Bennett, NOW Communications Director [Member] Email
I must correct the fallacy that @geiga perpetuates. NOW did NOT use sexist, racist or classist slurs against any woman who made accusations against Bill Clinton. In fact, we spoke out against the media's tendency to discount and slur women based on their economic background or any other characteristics that have nothing to do with the facts.

You can read all of NOW's statements from that time period on NOW's website.

I would also like to put to rest the anti-woman, anti-justice talking points that suggest sexual harassment is really just men joking around or trying to compliment women, that it is somehow akin to women giggling about men's body parts, and that it's really about how certain women just need to get over being so gosh darn sensitive. Sexual harassment, regardless of how harmless you think it is, actually hurts women (and businesses) by creating a workplace environment where women are unable to perform their duties effectively. Sexualizing, stereotyping and belittling women in the workplace is counter-productive and anti-competitive, and everyone benefits when it is stopped (except maybe the men who are getting ahead by unethically disarming their female competition).
11/01/11 @ 11:40
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Comment from: cmet [Member] Email
@geiga. Continue to drink the Kool Aid. Bill Clinton was accused by 3 women that we know of (Willey, Broderick and Jones) of sexual assualt. Two of the three had been big supporters of the governor. The fact that NOW issued statements rather than being the lead in calling for a major investigation or his resignation speaks volumes. Junita Broderick had been physically injured, confided in a co worker who witnessed the injuries, and like a lot of rape victims chose not to report the incident as Bill Clinton was a very powerful man. Years later she was outed (did not come forward herself) and confirmed what happened. Not exactly Tawana Brawley. If you are liberal you get less scrutiny from NOW. NOW has marginalized their voice to the point that it means almost nothing to the general public.
11/01/11 @ 13:23
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Comment from: cmet [Member] Email
My comment should have been directed to billywms
11/01/11 @ 13:25
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Comment from: jackpulliam3rd [Member] Email
How does NOW feel about the incidents of sexual assault occurring at OWS and their refusal to report them to the police? Seems like something happening now would be as important as something that happened twenty years ago.
11/01/11 @ 15:52
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
"Cain Is Guilty Until Proven Innocent, Feminists Say"

http://www.nationalreview.com/home-front/281891/cain-guilty-until-proven-innocent-feminists-say/suzanne-venker
11/01/11 @ 17:54
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
@ geiga

Bill Clinton never raped anyone.
11/01/11 @ 17:55
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
I should add if a liberal man was accused of the same thing you wouldn't hear a word about it from feminists.
11/01/11 @ 17:59
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
@Lisa Bennet:Are you talking about me & cabaret?--I do NOT think sexual harassment is okay,But if someone said "You have a nice ass billy"-I'd take it as a compliment!-They're not putting their hands on me or threatening me so how is that harassment?--I wouldn't mind getting sexualized--It means i have a hot body!-Stereotyping how?--Who was stereotyping?&People get belittled all the time in the workplace-women AND men,How is that sexual harassment? How were my & cabarets views "anti-woman"?--If a person can't work well when they've been told they're attractive then that's their problem!--I'm not talking about when someone is touched & groped--That's harassment!-But,...Being told you're sexy or attractive or you would look good in this clothing,..That's not harassment,That's a Compliment!
11/01/11 @ 19:13
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
@cabaret:Yep,Hit the nail right on the head!
11/01/11 @ 19:14
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
@cmet:Juanita couldn't remember the date or time of the alleged encounter--That's a red flag right there!And her family had a grudge against bill for commuting the sentence of the man who killed her father--Motive!
Kathleen was known 2 attend events bill would appear at--Events she didn't have 2 & there was no reason 4 it--It seems she had a crush or relationship with him & she would wear a black dress when she went that she thought he liked--Who does that with their harasser!??
And Paula Jones lied about being in playboy,lied about be sexual prior 2 the allegations,And she claimed she lost wages from clinton,when,In actuality-Her pay went UP!--How do you still believe he harassed her!???But i will agree with the whole now being biased thing--If Joe Biden or Barack Obama got accused of rape or sexual assault,-You wouldn't hear a peep out of now!-BIASED!
11/01/11 @ 19:46
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
@ Lisa Bennett --

"I would also like to put to rest the anti-woman, anti-justice talking points..."

Why do feminists think people who don't agree with them are anti-woman?

I had an interesting discussion with a female friend. She said they're a few people she works with who are attracted to other co-workers but both parties are too afraid to confront one another because such behavior has been deemed inappropriate. I'm not talking about blatant sexual comments, rather innocent banter that lets one another know there's a mutual attraction. Its not just men, it seems women are also confused about the ever expanding definition of sexual harassment and whats considered appropriate work place behavior.

I should point out my friend met her husband at work.
11/01/11 @ 23:24
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
@ Lisa -- I almost forgot. Why isn't there an edit button in case someone wants to change or delete a comment?
11/01/11 @ 23:26
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
I LOVE cabaret!
11/02/11 @ 15:19
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Comment from: Lisa Bennett, NOW Communications Director [Member] Email
Just to clarify, I did not say that any person was anti-woman, I said that the talking points were anti-woman. From the comments on here, it is clear that workers and employers need more education on what is and isn't sexual harassment. Just because people are confused doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And it doesn't mean that it isn't truly harmful to women and the workplace as a whole. If people are worried about being accused of sexual harassment, then maybe they shouldn't do whatever they were thinking of doing --it is work after all, not the club!

@cabaret: aren't you indulged enough on here? you want to be able to edit yourself, too, after the fact?
11/03/11 @ 15:17
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
Yes, I am quite indulged but you must admit, I do make things interesting.

I should point out I do agree with NOW on some issues especially strengthening social security. I particularly liked NOW's position on TransUnion and agree that employment credit reports are ridiculous.
11/03/11 @ 16:03
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
How were the talking points "anti-woman"?-And,If someone says things that are anti-woman,Doesn't that make them anti-woman?-If you say things that are racist,Aren't you a racist(unless you're just joking)?-& i would like 2 know what you think is sexual harassment-If i only make a sexual comment that isn't a threat,And don't put my hands on anybody,How is that harassment?-I don't get it!-And,I will NOT stop joking around out of fear of being accused--Should women stay inside forever for fear of being raped?-Same thing here,I won't stop how i talk just because somebody else might FALSELY accuse me of harassment--That's not my fault, & just because it is work,Doesn't mean we can't joke.
P.S.
I think I'd like an edit bar,Just in case i misspell something.-And cabaret DOES make things interesting,He's the most interesting commenter on this blog,..We LOVE You cabaret!
11/03/11 @ 18:48
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
@ Lisa -- This might be a controversial ideology but I'm a believer if a male and female become friends, a sexual attraction is inevitable. Men & Women often become friends at work. In fact, most successful relationships begin with a friendship. I'm not saying its a mans prerogative to harass a woman, but I believe sexual harassment laws have made innocent flirting unacceptable. Work is not a 'club' but human attraction will never be shackled by PC laws. If a man and woman are attracted to one another it doesn't matter if they're at work, a club, an elevator, or a library -- they'll find away to express their mutual feelings.
11/03/11 @ 20:02
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
Ya,Is flirting harassment Lisa?
11/03/11 @ 21:40
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
@ billywms -- I appreciate your support but I don't need a cheerleader. Please stop baiting Lisa. Thank you!
11/03/11 @ 22:43
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
@cabaret voltaire --I actually agree with you,& wasn't just doing that because you said it & really want 2 know if she & feminists think flirting is harassment,I'm not trying 2 be a "cheerleader"-I simply have stated i agree with you & what i want 2 know,I'm not trying 2 "bait"anybody,I really want 2 know her thoughts, Thank you!
11/04/11 @ 00:39
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
If i said a woman was pretty,-Is that harassment?-Well,What's the difference between saying someone is pretty & saying "I want 2 bang you"--Isn't it another way of telling someone they're pretty?--If someone told me they wanted 2 bang me,I would take it as they think I'm attractive & NOT as harassment--If a woman interprets it as harassment,That's their problem!
11/04/11 @ 00:43
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
Why has N.O.W. not asked 4 him 2 step down?--You asked DSK 2 step down well,Why not him?-Is sexual harassment not serious enough 2 ask someone 2 step down over?-If cain were accused of actual rape(which,probably will happen soon)Will NOW ask 4 him 2 step down?-If not,is it because...NOW is a politically correct,special interest group who doesn't want 2 pass judgement on a man of color but is just fine doing it on a white guy(DSK)Ugh,you women at now will never learn...
11/04/11 @ 01:02
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Comment from: Lisa Bennett, NOW Communications Director [Member] Email
This is the last time I am commenting on this thread. @billywmns continues to make it clear that he does not get it. Really, you want to be able to go up to women at the place where you are supposed to be working (for pay, I would gather) and tell them you want to "bang" them? Good luck with that. I can't imagine why any woman wouldn't want to go out with you or any employer wouldn't want to hire you!

Sexual harassment is not just about quid pro quo -- such as when a boss demands that a women sleep with him or lose her job. It is also about creating a hostile work environment -- distracting a woman from doing her job in a place of business. This is not some brand-new, mysterious concept. I'm sure there's lots of information on the Internet about what sexual harassment is and isn't, including on NOW's own website, so try searching a bit.

But I really do think you and others create a strawman when you bemoan those poor co-workers who are attracted to each other, but who will never be able to declare their feelings thanks to those evil laws against sexual harassment. That's NOT what this is about.
11/04/11 @ 10:20
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
Yes i do want 2 do that.Sexual remarks shouldn't distract anyone,(they wouldn't distract me)-And i would like 2 go up 2 someone & tell them i want 2 bang them(if i wanted 2)-I searched & it's said it's verbal as well but that doesn't make sense since if there's no threat,-How is that harassment?-Why would anyone(woman,employer,etc...)Not be okay with that?-You're right,I don't get it as i don't get anything that doesn't make sense!
11/04/11 @ 13:02
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
I have a theory about this Herman Cain situation. Its very common for liberals to engage in identity politics. Most often, they paint republicans as racists but they can't do that with Cain because he's black. Naturally, liberals start playing the gender card by suggesting he's a sexist and doesn't respect women. Obama has been losing some female support lately and this controversy is great way to win back some of their votes.

These new allegations are very serious but it makes me wonder why the accuser waited 15 years to address this. Was this alleged assault that traumatizing where it took 15 years to come forward? Discussing this for the first time during a republican primary is a bit suspicious. It seems far left lawyer Gloria Allred is more concerned with destroying Cain than seeking justice for this woman.
11/07/11 @ 17:25
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
Yep.-Gloria's always been about the money & destroying famous,successful,Men like Herman rather than getting justice for an alleged victim,-That's why she always asks for cash 4 her clients & herself rather then encouraging charges 2 be brought.And you are correct cabaret with the suspicion--Why not come forward then?-If it was traumatizing then,Why not now?And if she has managed to move on with her life & get past the alleged assault,Wouldn't going forward now just reopen old wounds?-Liberals have to be breathing a sigh of relief with these allegations against Herman & Rick Perry(with the N word sign)-And with Mitt Romney keeping quiet in the corneralready over the allegations now people like allred & other democ,it looks like obama will get reelected for a second term,-Herman Cain facing controversy rats criticizing cain,-They're just throwing gas on the fire.Not that sexual assault allegations aren't serious or that they shouldn't be examined,Just that they are what they are,..ALLEGATIONS And Nothing more.
11/07/11 @ 20:57
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Comment from: twissb [Member] Email
Can we step back from the electoral political focus for a moment and look at everyday sexual harassment in schools?

Today's Huffington Post (Nov. 8) report on AAUW's survey on harassment in schools stresses this point:

“The AAUW report observes that sexual harassment and bullying can sometimes overlap, such as the taunting of youths who are perceived to be gay or lesbian, but it says there are important distinctions. For example, there are some state laws against bullying, but serious sexual harassment – at a level which interferes with a student's education_ is prohibited under the federal gender-equality legislation known as Title IX.

AAUW continues "Too often, the more comfortable term bullying is used to describe sexual harassment, obscuring the role of gender and sex in these incidents," the report says. "Schools are likely to promote bullying prevention while ignoring or downplaying sexual harassment."”

Interestingly, on the same Huffington Post page as the report on the AAUW study, this report appears:
" Vermont High School Organizes Anti-Gay Bullying Sit-In To Honor Bisexual Freshman (VIDEO)
With photo, video, and story:

“Students at a Vermont high school organized an all-day sit-in last week in support of an openly bisexual teen claims to have been bullied due to his sexual orientation.

"As Vermont's WCAX is reporting, roughly 300 Essex High School students participated in workshops addressing bullying, carrying placards and posters to show their support and sharing their own stories of being bullied in the classroom. Representatives from Outright Vermont, an advocacy group that works with lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and questioning youth, were among those on hand to help organize many of the events.

"I feel amazing," freshman Cole Peterson, who said he was punched in the face by a fellow student at a nearby park but not seriously injured, is quoted by the Burlington Free Press as saying. "I feel really loved and cared for, and I feel like we can make a difference with this, and I really hope that we can change something."

When has a school ever devoted a day to discussing sexual harassment of girls by boys, including critical examination of the permission-giving messages and “jokes” in popular media and pornography that routinely violate the bodies and dignity of girls and women??

It's up to girls and women to stand up for their own importance as a class on an equal basis with all of the various classes which win serious attention because they consist of, or prominently include, boys and men. Title IX means taking women and girls seriously everywhere in schools, not just in athletics.

If using harassment to subordinate girls is acceptable in school, that is the lesson that teaches boys-to-men how to treat women as inferiors in the adult world. Surely girls are entitled to a day that makes boys face up to what sexual harassment is all about and why it must stop.
11/08/11 @ 11:33
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Comment from: cabaret voltaire [Member] Email
@ twissb

Be careful of studies by the AAUW. They have a specific agenda and tend to manipulate statistics. This is true of all special interest groups, not just feminists.

Keep in mind, girls have been known to harass boys. When have we determined the well being of one child is more important than the other? Harassing a boy is equally wrong but its rarely mention, unless of coarse a homosexual boy is the victim of bullying.

Also, its fairly common for girls to harass one another. Girls are more likely to bully other girls just as boys are more likely to bully one another.

I remember watching the View a few weeks ago. Joe Biden was discussing dating violence and Whoopi Goldberg made an interesting point. She asked Mr. Biden if we should also teach girls not to hit boys. The audience applauded but he ignored her comment. To make matters worse he than condemned fathers exclusively for child abuse by stating no man has the right to put his hands on someone smaller than him, including children. He's absolutely correct but has he forgotten women are bigger than children?


11/08/11 @ 15:25
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Comment from: billywms [Member] Email
I recall that episode,-When asked about that he simply put goldbergs question in the other direction with a lie,he said that all criminals in the us witnessed their father beat their mother--Not True!-And you didn't even answer her damn question!
11/09/11 @ 00:50
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